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Lola Kirke and Zoë Kravitz Talk About New Music and an Old Love Triangle

The friendship between Lola Kirke and Zoë Kravitz began with a “falling in.” The pair first crossed paths as young New Yorkers—Kirke was 19, and Kravitz 21—when they found themselves in the middle of a youthful love triangle. But that’s ancient history now: in the intervening decade, Kirke established a steady career in film, which included roles in Mozart in The Jungle, Mistress America, and Gone Girl; while Kravitz tried her hand at screenwriting and film direction. The two actors also became close friends, to the point where Kravitz, now 31, was one of the first people to hear an early draft of Kirke’s sophomore record last summer. Lady for Sale, out last Friday, is the glitzy lovechild of country and disco that Kirke always dreamed of making, but that doesn’t make it any easier for the artist to release it. Here, Kravitz, a musician herself, asks Kirke a few questions about good art, bad reviews, and fake orgies.

ZOË KRAVITZ: We’ve never zoomed.
LOLA KIRKE: We’ve never zoomed. You look great on here.
KRAVITZ: You look blurry.
KIRKE: Oh, my camera’s really dirty. Are you at your grandmother’s house?
KRAVITZ: No, I’m in London where it always looks like somebody’s grandma’s house.
KIRKE: Literally.
KRAVITZ: You can’t go anywhere without seeing a floral print. Sup dude! How you doin’?
KIRKE: I’m a bit sleepy and Santino’s a bit needy, but other than that—
KRAVITZ: So, is it okay if like 90 percent of my questions are about Santino [Kirke’s dog]?
KIRKE: 100 percent. Santino, say hi!
KRAVITZ: My baby! Oh, my goodness. You love me.
KIRKE: He does. He really does. He says he’ll text you later.
KRAVITZ: Okay, he always says that, but I know he’s kind of a player. So, I’ve been given some questions and I wrote some of my own, and we can just see how we go. How did we first meet?
KIRKE: Is it okay to say that I considered you an enemy for many years? [Both laugh] I will say, the journey from enemy to dear friend has been one of the most affirming of my life. To go from not liking someone so much to being so close—I consider you one of the smartest, coolest people I’ve ever met, and it gives me faith that first impressions can be dead wrong.
KRAVITZ: I mean, in your defense, it wasn’t even that you were wrong. We had quite a complicated beginning of a friendship that included a love triangle. That’s all I’ll say. I’m using love loosely, but a triangle. In our 20s in New York City.
KIRKE: I mean, I was actually a teenager.
KRAVITZ: God damnit. I was like, what, 21?
KIRKE: You must have been 20 and I was like 19, which is basically a grown up in New York.
KRAVITZ: How old are you now?
KIRKE: 40? [Both laugh] I’m 31.
KRAVITZ: Yeah, I’m 33. But that song “The Crime,” on your album, is about the person that we had our falling out with.
KIRKE: Our “falling in” really. So yes, that’s how we met.
KRAVITZ: The next question that I wrote down is: how are you?
KIRKE: I’m feeling really good today. I don’t know why, because I’m really, really tired. I’ve had an intense week of like, ego death. I shot a four day group sex scene and broke my foot.
KRAVITZ: Actually?
KIRKE: No, sorry, that’s a gross overstatement—I’m kind of limping. And in between takes of getting pounded at a fake orgy, I kept running upstairs and making sure that my entire music business wasn’t collapsing. I couldn’t let myself take any breaks, because then everything would fall apart—
KRAVITZ: Meaning you couldn’t just focus on one thing at a time?
KIRKE: Yeah, which makes me think I have mild to severe ADHD.
KRAVITZ: You’re a hard worker.
KIRKE: I’m good though. It’s hard to be miserable when it’s springtime in New York.
KRAVITZ: New York is just my favorite place. I’m very upset that you’re not there all the time anymore.
KIRKE: I know, but neither are you Zoë, let’s be real. You’re at your grandmother’s house in London right now.
KRAVITZ: Look, I go where Grandma goes, you know what I’m saying? Okay, the next question I have is: what’s your hope for today?
KIRKE: That’s so cute. My hope for today is that I can maintain the optimism I woke up with.
KRAVITZ: By evening you will be having a martini.
KIRKE: I’m doing a night shoot tonight. So, by evening I’ll be—
KRAVITZ: —Getting pounded?
KIRKE: By a man with a thing over his penis so that I can’t actually feel it.
KRAVITZ: [Laughs] Oh, no.

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Lola Kirke Pays Homage To Madonna On New Song “Better Than Any Drug”

Actress and musician Lola Kirke has released her new song “Better Than Any Drug,” a groovy, retro-sounding pop banger that’s also serving as the lead single of her forthcoming new album, Lady For Sale, out this April.

Over a steady, thumping beat and twangy guitar licks, Kirke lets her playful vocals loose as she sings about being in the swooning throes of a brand new love: “Cause you feel better than any drug / Ooh I think I’m in love.” The song, which mines that infectious, buoyant pop from Madonna’s “Like A Virgin” era, arrives with an equally lively music video premiering on NYLON, below. Shot in black and white by Director Alex Eaton, Kirke dances around her home — shimmying in the kitchen, kicking her feet on the pool table — in a sheer black robe, much like you would if you also developed a new crush.

“Director Alex Eaton and I wanted to honor the Madonna reference in the video, so we pulled a lot from Madonna’s ‘90s tour doc Truth of Dare,” Kirke writes of the video in an email. “Since I’m nowhere near the dancer Madonna is, we brought on the wonderful choreographer/actress Angela Trimbur to create movement that felt organic, sexy, and playful, too. What I lack in skill, I make up for in enthusiasm, so I think it turned out really nicely.”

Lady For Sale is Kirke’s second full-length album and will be released on the legendary Third Man Records. She released her debut project, Heart Head West, in 2018, a collection of starry-eyed, country-tinged folk.

Watch “Better Than Any Drug,” below, and read on for an interview with Kirke about the making of “Better Than Any Drug,” the story behind her new album title, and what you can expect to hear on the project.

What are you up to right now — describe your surroundings.
I’m at my kitchen table, staring at some dead flowers and a half-drunk bottle of wine I opened two nights ago and have been too tired to finish.

Tell us about “Better Than Any Drug,” what spurred you to write it?
This song came about after being urged to write something I would have loved when I was 12… which I guess says a lot about how precocious I was as a child! I asked my dear friend and pop genius Holiday Sidewinder to co-write it with me and it ended up sounding a bit like a Madonna song I would have listened to ad nauseam. Director Alex Eaton and I wanted to honor that reference in the video, so we pulled a lot from Madonna’s ‘90s tour doc Truth or Dare. Since I’m nowhere near the dancer Madonna is, we brought on the wonderful choreographer/actress Angela Trimbur to create movement that felt organic, sexy, and playful, too. What I lack in skill, I make up for in enthusiasm so I think it turned out really nicely.

Your new album is called Lady For Sale. Is there a story behind it?
I hadn’t worked as an actress in a long time and the demos I was making for this record weren’t generating any interest. People in the industry on the acting side were naming my weight as the problem, which felt humiliating. On the music side, it was the same refrain: “You need to be like 14 and massive on TikTok.” I began to feel like a product for sale, instead of an artist. The worst part was no one was buying. Then I thought about how many people pursuing their dreams are in that same boat, so I wrote a song about it. Thematically, it’s an outlier on the record — the rest of the album is about falling in love when you’re not supposed to really and how wild it is to follow your heart anyway — but the words “Lady for Sale” felt like they captured the sonic aesthetic the most, so we made it the name of the album.

How does it feel to be releasing the project with the legendary Third Man Records?
Incredible! I couldn’t be happier to be working with them. They’re just the coolest. Visiting their office makes me feel like a musical version of Charlie in the Vinyl Chocolate Factory.

What can listeners expect to hear on the new album?
Think like ‘80s Dolly [Parton] hanging out with “Stand Back” Stevie [Nicks] at Donna Summers’ birthday party, which is being held in Tanya Tucker’s RV.



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‘Three Women’: Blair Underwood & Lola Kirke Join Showtime Drama Series

Emmy winner Blair Underwood (In Treatment) is set as a lead opposite Shailene Woodley, DeWanda Wise and Betty Gilpin in the upcoming Showtime drama series Three Women. Additionally, Mozart in the Jungle alumna Lola Kirke has been tapped for a recurring role in the hourlong series based on the nonfiction bestseller by Lisa Taddeo, who has adapted her book.

In Three Women, a group of women are on a crash course to radically overturn their lives. Gilpin stars as Lina, a homemaker in Indiana who, after a decade in a passionless marriage, embarks on an affair that quickly becomes all-consuming and transforms her life. Sloane (Wise), a glamorous entrepreneur in the Northeast, has a committed open marriage with Richard, until two sexy new strangers threaten their aspirational love story. Maggie, a student in North Dakota, weathers an intense storm after accusing her married English teacher of an inappropriate relationship. Lastly, Gia (Woodley), a writer grieving the loss of her family, persuades each of these three spectacular “ordinary” women to tell her their stories, and her relationships with them change the course of her life forever.

Underwood will play Richard, a popular island chef who is blindsided when his wife Sloane (Wise) begins a hidden sexual relationship with another man.

Kirke will portray Jenny, a sparkling, free spirit – and possibly the only woman Sloane (Wise) has ever gotten close to.

Three Women is executive produced by Taddeo, showrunner Laura Eason, Kathy Ciric and Emmy Rossum. Louise Friedberg has signed on to direct the first two episodes, which she will also executive produce.

Underwood will next be seen in the psychological thriller film Viral, where he also serves as director and producer; the upcoming TV series Love Life; and the recently announced pilot for L.A. Law, where he’s set to executive produce and reprise his original starring role. Underwood is repped by ICM Partners, Thruline and Felker Toczek Suddelson Abramson.

Kirke will be seen next in the upcoming untitled limited series about the 1980s Los Angeles Lakers. In addition to her lead role on Mozart in the Jungle, her additional notable credits include The Premise, Lost Girls and American Woman. She is repped by One Entertainment, ICM Partners, and Sloane, Offer and Weber & Dern.